The MLB The Show Fable Desirability Rankings - What legends should SDS be abacus to the game?

It's a catechism that gets asked all the time on this sub: "what legends do you wish to see added to the game?" Hearing people's assessment and absent on what could be is consistently fun, but, with new legends accepting appear every anniversary and the hype for the new bold building, I absitively to yield a ache at considerately answering the question. This is an attack to bulk out not just what legends I abandoned wish in the game, but what legends SDS *should* be adding.

# METHODOLOGY

Simple. One allotment of the blueprint was just Baseball Reference WAR, to admeasurement amateur quality. I took the account of the top 500 players by WAR, and chopped off everybody who's in the bold already, either as a fable or because they're still active. I gave every absolute amateur a account to admeasurement acceptance and how the new fable would be accustomed in the bold (q-score). This was on a calibration from 1-10. It was the abstract allotment of the formula, but I approved to break as abutting to this explanation as possible:

9 and 10 are the icons. Non-baseball admirers apperceive their names. Baseball admirers apperceive aggregate about their careers. In academic fable discussions on here, they appear up every time. Ex.: Hank Aaron.

7 and 8 are the superstars. Every baseball fan knows these guys. They're mentioned frequently in discussions about new legends. Ex.: Pedro Martinez.

5 and 6 are well-regarded, accepted players. Solid all-stars. A lot of admirers should apperceive them, but maybe not abundant added than a name/team/position. I put a lot of the dead-ball stars actuality because I affected the name recognition/excitement akin wouldn't be as high. Ex.: Eddie Collins, Robin Roberts.

3 and 4 are players that aren't all that exciting. You adeptness not accept heard of these guys, even if you're a baseball fan. A lot of beforehand players that weren't huge stars. The humans who wish them in the bold are acceptable either admirers of the team they played for or huge baseball nerds (like me). Ex.: Charlie Gehringer.

1 and 2 are guys a lot of humans haven't heard of. Aboriginal era players, or non-stars. Ex.: Silver King, Ron Cey.

Then, I assorted the q-score by 10 and added it to the player's WAR absolute to get the final score.

One note: I apperceive there are players whom MLB will acceptable never acquiesce in the game. But I don't affliction about that. So, declared or accepted steroids users like McGwire, Sosa, Manny? They were considered. Pete Rose? In. Declared game-fixers Joe Jackson and Eddie Cicotte? In. Literal absolute game-fixer Hal Chase? Would accept been in if his numbers were acceptable enough. Racist section of debris Cap Anson? In, begrudgingly.

Anyway, actuality we go.

# THE TOP 50

Barry Bonds — 162.8 WAR + 100 q-score = 262.8

Hank Aaron — 143 + 100 = 243

Roger Clemens — 139.6 + 100 = 239.6

Alex Rodriguez — 117.8 + 100 = 217.8

Mickey Mantle — 110.3 + 100 = 210.3

Rickey Henderson — 111.2 + 90 = 201.2

Honus Wagner — 130.8 + 70 = 200.8

Tris Speaker — 134.1 + 60 = 194.1

Lou Gehrig — 112.4 + 80 = 192.4 CONFIRMED on Twitch beck 3/7/19

Pete Alexander — 120.2 + 70 = 190.2

Frank Robinson — 107.3 + 80 = 187.3

Greg Maddux — 106.7 + 8 = 186.7

Roberto Clemente — 94.5 + 90 = 184.5

Eddie Collins — 124 + 60 = 184

Randy Johnson — 101.1 + 8 = 181.1

Joe DiMaggio — 78.1 + 100 = 178.1

Mel Ott — 107.8 + 70 = 177.8

Lefty Grove — 106.1 + 70 = 176.1

Derek Jeter — 72.4 + 100 = 172.4

Steve Carlton — 90.5 + 80 = 170.5

Pete Rose — 169.7 absolute account (90 q-score)

Nap Lajoie — 167.4 (60)

Carl Yastrzemski — 166.4 (70)

Adrian Beltre — 165.7 (70)

Pedro Martinez — 164 (80)

Curt Schilling — 159.6 (80)

Tom Glavine — 150.8 (70)

Carlos Beltran — 149.8 (80)

Tim Raines — 149.4 (80)

Manny Ramirez — 149.4 (80)

Mariano Rivera —146.2 (90)

Craig Biggio — 145.5 (80)

David Ortiz — 145.3 (90)

Roy Halladay — 144.3 (80)

Mike Mussina — 143 (60)

Larry Walker — 142.7 (70)

Shoeless Joe Jackson — 142.2 (80)

Mark McGwire — 142.2 (80)

Ron Santo — 140.5 (70)

Scott Rolen — 140.2 (70)

John Smoltz — 139.1 (70)

Sandy Koufax — 139 (90)

Carl Hubbell — 138.4 (70)

Mordecai Brown — 138.3 (80)

Hank Greenberg — 137.6 (80)

Don Drysdale — 137.2 (70)

Kid Nichols — 136.1 (20)

Robin Roberts — 136 (50)

Chase Utley — 135.4 (70)

Lou Whitaker — 135.1 (60)

The next 10, in order, are Willie McCovey, Doc Gooden, Jim Thome, Johan Santana, Todd Helton, Kirby Puckett, Johnny Mize, Frankie Frisch, Andy Pettitte, Bobby Abreu and Sammy Sosa.

# BLIND SPOTS

Now, are there groups of players that this adjustment misses out on? Yes, of course. Four capital ones, I think, and I'll awning them bound here.

1, Relievers. A lot of relievers, abnormally avant-garde ones, just don't angle abundant to hit the WAR standards. Mariano Rivera (only the greatest afterpiece of all time) was the abandoned analgesic on the top 50. Hoyt Wilhelm (62nd) was the abandoned added one to accompany him on the top 100. I anticipation about authoritative a abstracted top 20 account of just relievers, MLB 19 the show stubs but that articulate like too abundant work, so instead actuality are some I'd like to see in the game: Dan Quisenberry, Brad Lidge, Sparky Lyle, Dick Radatz, Roy Face, Mike Marshall, Kaz Sasaki, Kent Tekulve. Not a air-conditioned alarming list, I apperceive (I in actuality anticipate SDS has done a acceptable job with relievers).

2, Players who didn't play in the aloft leagues. Negro Leaguers, mostly. The stat-keeping for these players was appealing accidental and it's cryptic how actually the akin of antagonism translated to the majors, so acrimonious these cards would get appealing subjective. On the hitting side, Gibson, Charleston, Air-conditioned Papa Bell, Dihigo, Pop Lloyd, Torriente, Judy Johnson, Suttles, Stearnes, Devil Wells would all be ailing additions, just off the top of my head. I can't appear up with as many pitchers (maybe because Satchel Paige was such a big brilliant he just occupies all that headspace), but Paige, Hilton Smith, Bullet Rogan. Add Sadaharu Oh and Eiji Sawamura too.

3, Players whose careers were cut abbreviate due to tragedy, injury, or burnout. Jose Fernandez. Tony Conigliaro. J.R. Richard.

4, Players who are mostly remembered for one big moment. Don Larsen had 11 career WAR. Would I still like to see him in the game? Fuck yeah (especially with moments this year). Bobby Thomson. Craig Counsell.

# CONCLUSION

I anticipate what this shows is that SDS has in actuality done a appealing appropriate job in accepting the rights to legends and authoritative baseball history a big allotment of their game. And this has been a big year for them. Accepting Mays, Cobb, Walter Johnson and Cy Young agency that 19 will accept 5 of the six greatest players of all time by BB-Ref WAR. Not that there's things they can't improve. Even aback into the 100s on my list, I'm seeing players that I would adulation to accept in the game, and that doesn't cover players from the four categories above, as able-bodied as players who just absent the WAR blow (which is a fair bulk of acceptable players — Albert Belle, Dave Parker and Jake Peavy are some of the names who are just outside the top 500). I'll try to amend the list, hopefully by bridge some names off as SDS announces a brace of these guys in the countdown to release. Let me apperceive if there are means to advance it, or just bark at me if you anticipate I undervalued someone. Aswell feel chargeless to ask if you accept a admired amateur who wasn't in the top 60 and I can acquaint you area they ranked.

# UPDATES

3/7/19 — Lou Gehrig accepted added to the bold on a Twitch stream. The Iron Horse was the No. 9 fable on my list, big-time accession to the game. With him affective off the list, Frank Robinson break into the top 10 and Doc Gooden is now in the top 50.